Park Chan-wook on His “Obsessive” New Noir, Choice to Depart

Because the director’s newest movie Choice to Depart is launched, the Korean auteur talks about shifting the main focus from intercourse, and his obsession with obsession
There’s a sure form of detective movie that offers you a thriller to resolve, throws in a number of purple herrings and gotcha moments alongside the way in which, and wraps all of it up in a pleasant tidy bow by the top. Choice to Depart shouldn’t be that movie.
In Park Chan-wook’s ravishing new noir, the act of detecting turns into an finish in itself – like pulling, as David Lynch as soon as memorably put it, “on a string with no finish”. Its mysteries aren’t merely instances to be solved, they’re existential forces to be reckoned with. Temper trumps tempo, clues reveal as a lot about character as they do about plot, and the selection of interiors alone may command a thousand web ‘deep-dives’. It’s a movie about obsession sculpted with a care that often skirts the obsessive, from a director whose previous proclivity for outlandish intercourse and violence (Oldboy, The Handmaiden) has generally been allowed to obscure what an absolute grasp of his craft he’s.
However, if Choice to Depart is comparatively restrained by the Korean auteur’s requirements, its precision marks it out as unmistakably his personal. It’s a beautiful puzzle-box of a film that crackles with erotic rigidity and, because of its bravura enhancing, a curiously poetic sense of time. After all, Park may have instructed this story in a linear type and made it much more legible to the informal viewer. Nevertheless it wouldn’t be half as lovely, as beguiling – nor would it not mirror the rising desperation of its protagonist, married cop Hae-jun (Park Hae-il), as he unravels in his quest to know Search engine optimisation-rae (Lust, Warning’s Tang Wei), a phenomenal Chinese language immigrant suspected of murdering her husband.
Just like the movie, Park doesn’t surrender secrets and techniques flippantly – ask him through his translator why it’s the pair don’t consummate their love affair with the form of acrobatic intercourse scenes that punctuated his final movie, The Handmaiden, and he’ll reply coyly, “Who says that they don’t?” At London Movie Competition, we sat down with the maestro to journey ever-deeper into the thriller on the coronary heart of his story.
(Warning: delicate spoilers forward)
Alex Denney: You’ve made a movie about obsession that’s loaded with an obsessive quantity of element. How a lot are you want Hae-jun on this respect?
Park Chan-wook: It’s true that I’m fairly obsessive about all the main points in my movies and ensuring that my movie is as excellent as attainable. However that’s actually just for the filmmaking facet; I don’t suppose it’s associated to Hae-jun’s characterisation.
Alex Denney: His partitions are plagued by photos from chilly instances he’s labored on – is your home just a little like that if you’re storyboarding a movie?
Park Chan-wook: Not that a lot! After all, I storyboard all my movies from scene one till the very last scene; the whole movie is storyboarded as if it’s the ultimate edited model, together with simply easy scenes with two individuals having a dialog. However as soon as that’s executed and the digicam begins rolling I form of chill out and make jokes with my DOP, so I can say that my obsessiveness doesn’t prolong to the capturing interval.
Alex Denney: What drew you to Tang Wei and Park Hae-il for the lead roles within the movie?
Park Chan-wook: With Tang Wei in fact Lust, Warning is among the movies, and there’s additionally a Korean movie made by her present husband, Kim Tae-yong, referred to as Late Autumn. It’s probably not well-known to the world but it surely’s one other movie I watched and have become satisfied that Tang Wei is Search engine optimisation-rae. With Park Hae-il, ever since he starred in Reminiscences of Homicide we had many mutual buddies together with Bong Joon-ho, so there have been many events once we met up for drinks or a meal. His CV speaks to the form of actor he’s, however to me what was necessary was the form of individual he’s.
Once I had my first dialog with my co-writer [Jeong Seo-kyeong] on the movie, I mentioned, ‘This character has many pockets in his jacket, he’s very kind-hearted, he’s clear, he’s courteous – you recognize, simply think about somebody like Park Hae.’ In order that was truly a reference level, he’s the picture I had in thoughts for the character. As a result of Park Hae as an individual is rather like [that], and on high of that he has a pure soul. He at all times places others earlier than him, but when an individual is simply variety and good the character can be boring: Park Hae is an effective individual however he has a specific quirkiness to him, simply in the way in which he imagines issues. And generally he makes different individuals snort, unexpectedly.
Alex Denney: Hae-jun is sort of a conservative character, isn’t he? Old school, even. Is that why he’s so troubled by his rising fascination for Search engine optimisation-rae?
Park Chan-wook: Hae-jun performs by the e-book and that’s one thing his junior detective finds fairly irritating; he’s the form of rigid one who brings out that form of response from others. After which he encounters this lady who will push him to the purpose the place he’s damaged, and the viewers goes to go on that journey with him and observe that course of. When Search engine optimisation-rae talks [about the time] “you instructed me that you simply cherished me” in the direction of the top of the movie he says, “When did I say that?” and it’s irritating as a result of Hae-jun is the form of one who thinks that folks can solely specific one’s love in the direction of each other when it’s executed in phrases. Whereas Search engine optimisation-rae is extra versatile when it comes to the way in which she thinks; she has a extra liberal angle in the direction of seeing and deciphering issues. And ultimately he is fully shattered; he’s nearly crying like a child. This detective who [has always been] dignified and proud is pushed over the sting and now faces his personal collapse.
Alex Denney: Even earlier than Search engine optimisation-rae turns up, Hae-jun has issues – he’s depressed, suffers from insomnia, and is probably impotent. What do you see as being on the root of his despair?
Park Chan-wook: Nicely, I didn’t actually get into that an excessive amount of within the movie, however there may be some proof that factors on the root of his despair as feeling trapped within the routine of his life.
Alex Denney: Is he like quite a lot of middle-aged Korean males on this regard?
Park Chan-wook: I don’t need to specify solely Korean males; I believe what can resonate with individuals is that Hae-jun is a portrait of anybody on the planet who resides within the city setting of immediately, being trapped within the routine of their lives and actually feeling misplaced.
Alex Denney: How does Search engine optimisation-rae change all that?
Park Chan-wook: When Hae-jun encounters Search engine optimisation-rae for the primary time with the physique of the useless husband mendacity on the bead, he offers her this very piercing stare at her and says, “I want to know the sample,” and naturally it’s received twin which means to it, as a result of he want to know the [unlock] sample on her cellular phone but in addition [he’s saying], “I want to know who you might be.” It’s an indication of curiosity about this enigmatic lady who has entered his routined life.
Alex Denney: A number of individuals appeared shocked by the shortage of intercourse within the movie, which you’ve countered by saying the story didn’t want it. Why do you suppose Hae-jun and Search engine optimisation-rae don’t sleep with one another?
Park Chan-wook: Nicely, who says that they didn’t? It’s actually as much as the viewers; the movie doesn’t say out loud in the event that they did or didn’t sleep collectively. Due to the time-jump enhancing there’s a sure time frame that’s been omitted, and what occurred throughout that interval no person is aware of. However let’s say they didn’t. I might say Hae-jun’s old-fashionedness is behind that, him being a policeman and being married meant it was unacceptable to his ethical compass; that’s simply how he perceives the world.
Alex Denney: Equally, why do you suppose it by no means appears to happen to Hae-jun that he may simply break up?
Park Chan-wook: There are various interpretations that may be made however as soon as once more the way in which that I and Park Hae-il see the state of affairs is that regardless that this couple is caught in that routine they usually’re form of drained, Hae-jun nonetheless cares for her they usually have a sure respect and affection for one another.
Alex Denney: Do you suppose Hae-jun wants that routine on some stage, even whereas he subconsciously seems for a means out of it?
Park Chan-wook: That’s a really intriguing interpretation and it is sensible, regardless that I by no means verbalised it, I agree the place you’re coming from.
Choice to Depart is out now.