The Previous, Presence and Way forward for Raf Simons

This text is taken from the Spring/Summer time 2023 problem of AnOther Journal:

Susannah Frankel: I simply modified – I swear that is true – out of the very same hoodie you’re carrying.

Raf Simons: You’re carrying Ralph Lauren if you find yourself having a Zoom with me?!

SF: Mine was a gift to my son when he was 12 that I stole again. However I believed, “I can’t put on that to speak to Raf.”

RS: I do have one thing a lot cooler underneath the hoodie – a Blue Velvet T-shirt. We had been in Tokyo over New 12 months – it was the primary time in my life I might actually journey in that method, as a result of earlier than with the model I couldn’t even go away from Antwerp – and we shopped.

SF: Which brings us neatly to …

RS: I used to be simply going to say.

SF: Can we discuss your final present? I’m fairly desirous about speaking about it compared to your first present. The sentiments and environment across the final one, after which the primary.

RS: Had been you on the first present? As a result of that was fairly one thing, that first present. However I did 4 collections earlier than even displaying.

SF: That, I knew.

RS: And I by no means actually thought of displaying, truly, once I began. All the things was so … So completely different, let’s say. I believed, “If I can attempt to make garments and any individual will prefer it, I can be glad.”

The primary assortment was not even in Paris, it was in Milan, due to Linda Loppa [head of the fashion department at the Royal Academy of Fine Arts Antwerp for more than 25 years]. She despatched me to an agent, Daniele Ghiselli, who was on the time the European distributor for Helmut Lang. I drove there, in my very own automotive, with a small assortment of hardly 40 items. After which it was hanging in a room subsequent to Helmut Lang. So I used to be like, “Oh wow, that’s unbelievable.”

Once I was nonetheless in industrial design faculty in Ghent I did an internship at Walter Van Beirendonck, however I additionally helped him out for a number of seasons afterwards, to do shows. He introduced me to Paris and to my first reveals – two reveals. One was Martin’s, the present all people is aware of [Martin Margiela Spring/Summer 1990]. And one other present I noticed that very same season was the Gaultier present, with the nuns that got here up out of the bottom and Neneh Cherry. There was such a tough distinction – that present was a giant spectacle in an area, with a spherical catwalk. But it surely was in fact the Martin present that utterly modified my notion of how vogue may very well be. And I used to be nagging Linda Loppa, as a result of all that made me suppose, “Oh, perhaps I ought to research vogue.”

I attempted to enter the Antwerp academy, however Linda wouldn’t permit me. But she was very desirous about furnishings – so she and her husband would assist me out. She was considering, “Oh, perhaps we should always discover some galleries who can work along with your furnishings.” For at the very least a yr and a half, two years, I’d see them day by day. I’d additionally see just a few different people who you realize very nicely. Olivier Rizzo was one in every of them. Willy Vanderperre. Peter Philips. It was a bunch of individuals from the identical era, and so they all got here from the Antwerp academy.

“And I by no means actually thought of displaying, truly, once I began. All the things was so … So completely different, let’s say. I believed, ‘If I can attempt to make garments and any individual will prefer it, I can be glad’” – Raf Simons

After which I believed, “You already know what? I wish to begin designing garments.” I truly began with two women – I believed, “I can’t do it alone.” One woman was a proper hand to Dries Van Noten and the opposite was a sample maker. We began collectively, a number of speaking, however they had been similar to, “Oh my God, it’s too scary. I can’t do that.”

That is the story that most individuals don’t know – it’s the actual story, truly. I stated, “I’m going to do it anyway.” Linda Loppa’s father was a tailor – “He will help you out,” she stated. As a result of I didn’t know methods to make a sample or something. He then related me to a really younger graduate tailor. I discovered some Belgian producers and made a small assortment. As a result of Linda saved saying, “For those who suppose you are able to do it, present me that you are able to do it.” So I simply made the stuff.

And since I went with Walter to Paris I noticed how designers introduced themselves – they might all the time construct a world. That’s additionally what I did. So I made a video. It’s the primary video [Autumn/Winter 1995], of two boys strolling. The man that’s within the video with the lengthy hair, he was truly a younger video maker, who I knew slightly bit from going out, who I believed was additionally great-looking within the garments. Extraordinarily skinny, clearly. He filmed it. And one other one – extraordinarily skinny, clearly, but additionally cool. Not fashions. All with Sonic Youth music. However once I went with all that to Milan, it didn’t actually appear so attention-grabbing for Ghiselli. He stated, “I simply need the garments.” I used to be a bit dissatisfied I couldn’t current it the best way I had envisioned it. It was extra about that for me, fairly than about garments.

I drove again from Milan and Ghiselli known as me a day or two later and stated, “I’ve orders. Can I fax them to you?” I didn’t have a fax machine, so I needed to go to my mother and father and borrow cash – as a result of all my cash had gone on the garments – to purchase a fax machine. Orders rolled in, seven orders from Japan. Whole panic assault – oh my God. I known as Linda Loppa and she or he stated, “Yeah, it’s important to kind it out now.”

From then on she all the time stated, “I knew you had it in you. That’s why I forbid you to go to the college. You’d have stated, ‘Vogue, it’s not for me.’”

SF: That’s an instance of an awesome instructor, isn’t it?

RS: Yeah, nicely it didn’t really feel like that on the time. I used to be so mad at her.

That first video was two boys strolling out and in. The second video [Spring/ Summer 1996] was proven in a small gallery with no invitation. That was the video that Olivier Rizzo and I did – the place Olivier was holding a lamp in my home and I used to be filming with this 8mm digital camera. Black and white, just a few children hanging round and dancing. A few boys and Veronique Branquinho.

Alexander Fury: It’s the get together one, isn’t it?

RS: They’re simply hanging out in my small residence, truly. The third video [Autumn/Winter 1996] could be very David Sylvian-like, garments all dyed black. I believe it was known as We Solely Come Out at Night time. And since we would have liked cash we threw a celebration that season, too, between the third and the fourth – the get together was known as Darkish Dancer. We thought, “Oh, if we’re fortunate 100 or 200 folks will come.” It was loopy, folks saved coming. It was in a crappy membership in Antwerp and the one factor we did all evening was, each hour, take the cash again to the corporate workplaces. We had been too scared we’d lose it.

The third video is the one once they stroll down the steps in the beginning, hanging out. Principally, they’re all the time hanging out.

Why am I telling you all this?

“As a result of we would have liked cash we threw a celebration that season, too, between the third and the fourth – the get together was known as Darkish Dancer. We thought, ‘Oh, if we’re fortunate 100 or 200 folks will come.’ It was loopy, folks saved coming. It was in a crappy membership in Antwerp and the one factor we did all evening was, each hour, take the cash again to the corporate workplaces. We had been too scared we’d lose it” – Raf Simons

AF: No, I’m into this. I really like this.

SF: I’ve by no means heard it earlier than.

RS: This was all a really lengthy intro to say that, even at this level we had been like, “Jesus, the manufacturing on these movies.” It took so many days – days of shoots, per week of modifying. So we stated, “Possibly it will be simpler to only present.” We had been so naive.

To return again to the primary present [Autumn/Winter 1997], I do suppose it pertains to the final present. I by no means actually thought in regards to the first present once we did the final present, by the best way – nevertheless it was the identical type of temper, the sensation that a number of folks might simply enter. The primary present, the area was small. It was in a youth club-slash-underground theatre in Paris. Crappy. I heard after the present there was a fireplace inside.

The backstage was upstairs, there have been these little rooms the place we needed to change the boys – I believe at the very least 12 silhouettes by no means made it onstage as a result of the boys had been simply not wearing time. All the things was impressed by English and American schoolkids. The present was a multitude. However in fact folks didn’t realise.

SF: I believe that’s attention-grabbing as a result of, in a method, there was the area then to have that spontaneous, instinctive little bit of a multitude – younger, unanticipated shock. There isn’t area for that now, however in a method what you probably did to your final present was to create space for it.

RS: To not be vital – however most likely, inevitably, to be vital – I believe that the whole lot grew to become very hierarchical when it comes to how manufacturers cope with their audiences.

And I didn’t really need it for the London present. By way of, “OK, what’s the hierarchy of the seating? Who sits the place?” I simply stated, “Let as many individuals in as attainable, as many as safety will permit, every kind of individuals.” Which was all the time the thought. To be near the character of a membership as a substitute of a present. That’s additionally why the bar grew to become the catwalk, and why, proper after the present, we simply saved going. It was not purported to cease. It was so associated to the physique and motion and dancing.

I’m in fact very conscious that that’s what I can do, due to what my model has been for thus a few years. It’s not the primary time I did a present with solely standing. I even did a present with no mild, for instance [Spring/Summer 2016].

I believe that folks take much more from my model than they might take from lots of the very established manufacturers.

SF: It’s disruptive, isn’t it? It’s disruptive of the standard system.

RS: If I take into consideration the place I come from earlier than I even began, it was usually like that. Martin’s reveals had been unimaginable. You’d by no means be allowed to do what he did now. Xuly Bët [Lamine Kouyaté] would simply go on the road together with his fashions. And the one factor I hoped for is that it opened a distinct dialogue after the present. There have been mates there however there have been additionally college students.

AF: Occupied with dialogues, I wished to ask about your response to folks’s reactions. The sentiments that folks had been expressing if you introduced that the label was closing – there was this outpouring. Your work has all the time been emotional, nevertheless it stunned me how related so many individuals felt to it and the way they expressed that feeling. And I ponder what your response was to that?

RS: Whole collapse. I had Sam [Ellis Scheinman, Simons’s partner] right here, thank God, as a result of it was a really tough second.

On the identical time we danced, we had champagne – as a result of I additionally felt very certain about doing this. It’s tough to speak in regards to the psychology as a result of, earlier than I began, vogue was by no means a life dream. And I additionally by no means actually thought that I might do this for ever.

“By way of, ‘OK, what’s the hierarchy of the seating? Who sits the place?’ I simply stated, ‘Let as many individuals in as attainable, as many as safety will permit, every kind of individuals.’ Which was all the time the thought. To be near the character of a membership as a substitute of a present. That’s additionally why the bar grew to become the catwalk, and why, proper after the present, we simply saved going. It was not purported to cease” – Raf Simons

SF: For those who take a look at the individuals who have been courageous sufficient to stroll away – at Helmut Lang or Margiela, individuals who stepped again – it’s great to have a look at a physique of labor in its totality, and also you stopped when that work was at its most insanely nice. You invited everybody in to see it, all of the designers got here, it was unbelievable. You left on a excessive. How great.

RS: And the bizarre factor is that this present was not constructed because the final in any respect.

SF: You didn’t know.

RS: I’ve been interested by it method longer than one season. This sense comes up – “When ought to I cease? When do I believe it’s sufficient?” It’s not a every day thought, nevertheless it’s one thing I’ve been contemplating for a very long time. I’m additionally very conscious of what the model has all the time represented, particularly I believe up to now decade. And it’s 100 per cent mine. In fact there have been potentialities. I might promote it … however I don’t suppose that anyone would need that, with out me nonetheless doing it.

If folks actually ask me the primary cause I wished to cease, it’s as a result of I wished to alter my life. Being impartial in a small model that’s so in want of me every day, it’s emotionally, psychologically, a really completely different type of state of affairs than once I’m a inventive director in a model. When I’m a inventive director I do know precisely what I’m answerable for. Whether or not it was Calvin Klein or Dior or Prada, I don’t have any stress on me when it comes to the big construction of those corporations and their tasks, human assets, workers. It’s completely different. When you might have your personal firm, huge or small, it’s a distinct feeling.

I’ve been doing each collectively for a very long time. I cherished doing my model till the final minute, and I might most likely nonetheless find it irresistible if I’m trustworthy. And I really like being a inventive director. However the two collectively actually additionally meant I had no life.

The actual cause is that I wished to have slightly bit extra of a life for my love, for my mother and father, for my canines, for my mates. To have the ability to journey and transfer slightly bit. To not all the time should say to folks, “I can’t, an excessive amount of work.” That’s the primary cause. It was solely vogue.

To ponder on the reactions – it’s indescribable. However the determination appears like the very best determination I ever made on the identical time. Miuccia stated one thing I didn’t even take into consideration. She stated, “It’s superb. It’s yours. You simply stopped the entire thing. Inside two or three years, you miss it, you come again. You are able to do no matter you need.”

AF: That’s the very first thing I stated to you as nicely, I believe – that you might do it once more. But it surely’s additionally the liberty to not should do one thing, season after season, to perhaps work with a gallery or with an artist or one thing like that. Which may find yourself being garments or one thing else. It’s that type of freedom.

I additionally suppose there’s such stress on this second for folks to be consumed by what they do, with what they do turning into who they’re. To reference people who we love, folks like Karl Lagerfeld or Azzedine Alaïa, they wouldn’t separate themselves from their work. It’s truly good to have the ability to give slightly distance, to attract a line beneath. To contemplate, “I don’t have to do that till the day I die.”

RS: You hit the nail on the top.

I’ve by no means thought that that is the one factor I wish to do. By no means. Not at some point. However I believe that perhaps it’s additionally due to what the character of vogue grew to become. It’s a lot. A very powerful factor for me is simply to permit myself to see this as regular.

AF: Having a life?

SF: But in addition, I believe in case you are a creator however you go from one job to a different to a different, you’re not truly seeing something in life to counterpoint your creativity. It’s very tough, your world turns into smaller. This manner your inventive imaginative and prescient will open up since you’ll be having extra precise expertise outdoors your studio.

“The actual cause [I wanted to stop] is that I wished to have slightly bit extra of a life for my love, for my mother and father, for my canines, for my mates. To have the ability to journey and transfer slightly bit. To not all the time should say to folks, ‘I can’t, an excessive amount of work.’ That’s the primary cause. It was solely vogue” – Raf Simons

RS: It’s additionally partly as a result of I nonetheless wish to do one thing very completely different.

I can think about folks additionally considering, “However why did he not cease Prada?” If I take into consideration the character of the state of affairs, I by no means actually meant to do it alone. And it’s chic to work with Miuccia. It’s a utterly completely different feeling than some other inventive director place I’ve ever had, this type of fixed dialogue. But in addition, the truth that it’s completely different, the sensation that the duty is actually shared. That could be a nice feeling.

SF: I wished to ask you about your workforce, as a result of most likely greater than anybody else … you had Willy, Olivier, Pieter Mulier, Matthieu Blazy. You’ve had this group of individuals round you, via all these completely different experiences, who’ve now gone on to do their very own superb issues. How do you are feeling about that? I believe it’s very lovely.

RS: We’re household. It’s not solely the folks the style world is aware of. Bianca [Quets Luzi], Elke [Bernaers], Tiziana [Luzi], they’ve been with me for a very long time. They’re the folks round me, and they’re all household to me.

And it was such a proud feeling, at Pieter and Matthieu’s first reveals. I believe I used to be much more burdened than them. It’s a unbelievable feeling. We’re much more and otherwise in contact about issues now than we was once once we labored collectively. They’re impartial, they’ve their very own companies, however they’re my two brothers. Really I informed them earlier than the announcement – that was not really easy. But it surely was additionally superb as a result of their immediate reactions had been, “Congratulations.”

I’m conscious what the model, moreover me as an individual, means for them.

SF: They’ve had that lovely expertise and you continue to share that relationship.

RS: Completely.

SF: It’s very romantic truly. In a tough world.

RS: Sure. Really, I didn’t reply to your query. In fact it impacts on me. I’m an emotional particular person. And it’s not that I used to be not conscious of the affect of the model on a sure viewers, however I didn’t count on how a lot it meant. However then I additionally suppose I can solely hope they perceive me, that’s all. I’m nonetheless right here.

AF: I believe there’s one thing superb about how your label has all the time been related to youth. As you grew extra mature as an individual and as a designer, you saved connecting with younger folks. That’s one thing I discover actually extraordinary.

What do you suppose it’s that drew folks in? What do you suppose it’s that folks relate to and truly will proceed to narrate to? As a result of folks will proceed to put on these garments. What do you suppose it’s that connects with them?

RS: Themselves. I’ve all the time wished to only look outdoors to see … What conjures up me most truly is younger folks and their behaviour and the best way they gown. I believe it comes again to themselves. Possibly they understood, I don’t actually know.

I’ve all the time labored with what I really feel. I strive to not overanalyse, to ask what I ought to do to make it work for a sure viewers. I simply did what I did.

AF: It’s like folks with music, that teenage fandom. The best way you related emotionally to music, I believe folks join emotionally to your vogue.

RS: I felt that on the final present greater than I’ve ever felt. And I might additionally really feel that in what was written by many individuals within the viewers. I’m very grateful for that as a result of it’s one thing that reinforces the truth that I made this determination. As a result of I believe I’d most likely really feel like a chunk of shit if all people stated, “Oh, thank God they closed.” Might have been that as nicely.

“I can think about folks additionally considering, ‘However why did he not cease Prada?’ If I take into consideration the character of the state of affairs, I by no means actually meant to do it alone. And it’s chic to work with Miuccia. It’s a utterly completely different feeling than some other inventive director place I’ve ever had, this type of fixed dialogue” – Raf Simons

SF: Or in case you burnt out, which lots of people traditionally have, doing these two differ­ent roles.

RS: I by no means actually felt I needed to cease as a result of I didn’t know what to do any extra. I believe the choice was a lot more durable as a result of that’s the alternative of the sensation I had. I don’t wish to sound pretentious, however I always have concepts for Raf Simons.

AF: You stepped away earlier than – 23 years in the past, you stopped designing for a yr. After which got here again with the Richey Manic assortment [Autumn/Winter 2001]. What was the motivation then and is there any similarity between that second and your emotions in the present day?

RS: No similarity. I believe at the moment I hated being a dressmaker. The corporate had grown too rapidly. I had a sense that a part of my younger life was gone. As a result of within the first seasons, earlier than we began displaying, I used to be going out lots – my entire life was going out dancing, techno. It was all related. However then I stated, “Whoa, this firm is turning into a giant factor.” We had nearly 20 folks employed in a timespan of two years.

I began to really feel stress. I used to be so younger, not even 30. And it was already a really severe, established enterprise. After which I took a break. I bear in mind I’d see Olivier Rizzo day by day and a girlfriend and we might exit lots once more, and we might go to the ocean and I began smoking. After which I missed it. After which I believed, “Fuck.” After which I began engaged on that assortment and it scared the shit out of me, as a result of I knew it was completely different from what we’d completed earlier than. However that’s what I felt.

AF: But it surely was completely different from the whole lot, actually.

RS: I additionally bear in mind I requested Willy – which is one thing I’d by no means do usually – to return and take a look just a few weeks earlier than we confirmed. I wanted at the very least one opinion from somebody I knew was going to inform me the reality. Hate it or find it irresistible.

AF: You must inform us what he stated.

SF: Sure, what did he say?

RS: Properly, he’s nonetheless carrying the bomber jacket. Some folks hated it, however there have been additionally many individuals who freaked out. They cherished it. And that was that.

SF: I believe lots of the vogue reveals that folks bear in mind probably the most evoke excessive reactions, a robust emotional response. And it doesn’t actually matter if it’s love or hate.

RS: I learnt to be pleased with shitty opinions, I’ll say.

AF: Due to the character of this dialog, we’re trying backwards. I wished to ask how you are feeling about nostalgia, each personally and culturally, as a result of I by no means consider you as a nostalgic particular person. However I don’t wish to put phrases in your mouth.

RS: You’ve recognized me for a very long time, and I believe I’ve all the time had a really huge mouth saying the previous is just not romantic, the longer term is romantic. And I nonetheless suppose that. It’s sophisticated to say that today, however nonetheless I must consider that the longer term is superb. I must consider that. However I additionally discover the previous now far more romantic than I used to. There was one thing unbelievable there, and so I’ve most likely develop into extra nostalgic.

SF: We’ve talked up to now about the concept that you’ve bought sure stuff you carry with you – Margiela, Helmut Lang, the colors of Yves Saint Laurent. For those who see one thing you’re keen on, why would you throw it away?

RS: In all probability in that mind-set, I’m extraordinarily nostalgic. Issues from the previous have actually made an affect on me. Issues which might be every day with me, I take into consideration them on a regular basis, which is in vogue language folks like Margiela or Helmut Lang, in music folks like David Bowie or Kraftwerk. That’s true, for certain.

Possibly I meant extra that I’m not so eager on making collections that take note of a retro really feel to them. Not that I by no means do it, I did do a set that was very Bruegel.

“I believe I’ve all the time had a really huge mouth saying the previous is just not romantic, the longer term is romantic. And I nonetheless suppose that. It’s sophisticated to say that today, however nonetheless I must consider that the longer term is superb. I must consider that. However I additionally discover the previous now far more romantic than I used to. There was one thing unbelievable there, and so I’ve most likely develop into extra nostalgic” – Raf Simons

AF: I’m unsure Bruegel counts as retro.

SF: And one of many great issues about vogue is that now your archive can have the identical impact on generations of designers to return. And you’ll develop into a part of their language. And I really like that.

RS: Solely the brand new designers.

AF: Do you might have a set or collections that you simply take into account your favorite?

RS: From a clothes standpoint or an emotional standpoint? However the first present ever and the final present, emotionally for certain.

As a set, as a result of for me it was such a disrupter of what a model could be, the Sterling Ruby present [Autumn/Winter 2014]. It felt … I’m a person and I prefer to function by myself. I’m particular, I do know that, nevertheless it additionally feels unbelievable if you relate with one other inventive. To get into one other mindset that isn’t mine, I want to essentially love what the particular person stands for, which was Sterling for that present. It was actually the 2 of us doing the whole lot. That’s now the case with Miuccia.

SF: However that’s attention-grabbing too, as a result of there’s historically the thought with a designer that you simply’re coping with a giant ego, and that’s not essentially going to work in pairs.

RS: Yeah, I don’t have an ego in that sense. Neither does Miuccia, in any other case it will not be attainable. But it surely’s additionally not that I might simply do it with anyone. I’ve been very particular about it and Miuccia could be very particular about it. We talked about it lots once we began. From day one it was a pure factor.

SF: The place do you suppose your intuition, or want to disrupt, comes from?

RS: That, I don’t know. I don’t actually know if I disrupt. I simply do what I really feel like I’ve to do, I suppose.

I didn’t actually begin with the intention of solely doing males’s. Linda stated, “OK, make garments.” And I began to make these garments and match them on myself. I used to be 59 kilograms at the moment and 184 centimetres tall, so excellent circumstances. But it surely was very reactive. My notion of vogue was via glamour – I couldn’t relate. Fashions, for instance, had been for me one of many huge issues I couldn’t relate to. I simply wished folks. Individuals round me and folks with the fitting perspective. Numerous the boys we selected throughout the first 4 or 5 years, they had been small and never lovely in the best way folks checked out fashions.

And the garments adopted what was wanted. They had been very small, as a result of I noticed that the idolisation of masculinity again within the day was a giant shoulder, suntan, lovely hair. And I couldn’t actually relate. I didn’t see it like that in any respect, most likely as a result of I didn’t appear like that and folks round me didn’t appear like that. So it was a pure factor. I by no means actually thought of it when it comes to, “I’m a disrupter.” It was simply, “I don’t like that. I wish to do the alternative.”

SF: I believe a part of your historical past can be that, if you began, menswear was seen nearly as a poor relation to womenswear, from the standpoint of concepts. You virtually turned it the opposite method round – the gender of it’s irrelevant. It was the spirit of it that made menswear influential.

AF: And if you closed, folks didn’t say, “A fiscally vital model has closed.” Raf Simons is a superb emotional model. An necessary model. That’s the factor. Wanting via your collections, I simply thought, “That is unbelievable.” It was such an train to undergo all of them and simply suppose, “Jesus Christ, the quantity this has been ripped off, the best way it’s been referenced.” It’s an incredible factor to have a physique of labor that’s been so influential. Only a few designers have that. And in menswear, there’s you.

SF: I believe there’s actually solely you, Raf.

RS: I all the time noticed the garments solely as one half. For certain, the folks we labored with had been as necessary as the garments, the music was as necessary as the garments, the perspective, the locations we selected to point out in, the connection between atmosphere and viewers, that was the entire identical significance for me. It was not, “Oh, I make collections, how are we going to current them?” No method. And nonetheless, up till the final second I’ve by no means, ever in my very own model checked out a garment with out music. It wouldn’t be attainable. It’s so related.

AF: I don’t even know if we wish to discuss it up to now tense, however what would you like the legacy of your label to be? How would you want Raf Simons to be remembered? It’s a bizarre query. I’m sorry.

RS: Some questions are tough to reply within the second. I believe from what I felt already, when all of it stopped, the reactions, I couldn’t have probably put it into phrases higher than different folks. I’m not any individual who is actually on Instagram – the label has an Instagram account after which in fact a number of folks round me, they’re on Instagram. In order that they make me see it.

One of many individuals who wrote issues on Instagram that actually made me emotional was Pieter. It made me quiet. That could be very emotional due to the previous, due to the various, a few years collectively. Once I noticed what he wrote – I don’t know in case you learn it, however you possibly can – it was very impactful. These phrases, these emotions. The Raf label, it was additionally a household.

Possibly it’s, once more, nostalgic – however typically we glance again at issues and suppose, “Why had been we complaining? Why did we nag? It was unbelievable.”

Hair: Louis Ghewy at MA+Expertise utilizing ORIBE. Make-up: Hannah Murray at Artwork+Commerce. Manicure: Anastasia Feokistoff. Mannequin: Julia Nobis at Viva Paris. Casting: Ashley Brokaw. Lighting: Romain Dubus. Digital tech: Henri Coutant. Photographic assistant: Samir Dari. Styling assistants: Niccolo Torelli, Emmanuelle Bastiaenssen and Ginger Bogaert. Hair assistant: John Allan. Make-up assistant: Jill Joujon. Producer to Willy Vanderperre: Lotte Mostert. Manufacturing: Mindbox. Producer: Isabelle Verreyke. Manufacturing assistant: Liv Lismonde. Particular due to Stéphane Virlogeux

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